Discussion:
When Are Americans Ever Going To Admit?
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Vicegerent
2005-11-02 14:51:35 UTC
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When are Americans ever going to admit that
"their boys" are not the brave men fighting
for their freedoms and rights; but are just
vile murdering thugs right out of Hell?

Oh! I forgot, Iraqis are not 'children of God'
as Jesus said all flesh (people) are - they are
just vermin in the way of the Haliburton oil pirates.
And, they DO have all those weapons of mass destruction.

Vicegerent

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Iraqi Resistance Report for Monday, 31 October 2005
Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>

*US admits seven American troops killed in 24, hours
as official statistics show Resistance activity at
nine-month high.

Now see if you can help me with this. Above, we have
the US claiming "Resistance activity at nine-month high",
and yet the reported kill rate is at a 2 year low ...
I have billy goats that smell better than this.

Evidence the US are ensuring news doesn't get back to
the reporting stations.

Iron and Clay ... Helping the American government be
a little more honest the American people.

This weeks dead count of: 156 takes the over all US
Soldier killed in Iraq to: 15,212

This week:
25 October 02 US Killed in Iraq
26 October 31 US Killed in Iraq
27 October 30 US Killed in Iraq
28 October 14 US Killed in Iraq
29 October 26 US Killed in Iraq
30 October 25 US Killed in Iraq
31 October 28 US Killed in Iraq today.

Al-Anbar Province.
Al-Qa'im.

US warplane blasts houses, then returns to rocket
rescuers, killing 41 Iraqi civilians in savage
pre-dawn raid near al-Qa'im.

An American warplane bombed four houses and one
commercial shop in the al-Baydah area near al-Qa'im
before dawn at 3am Monday morning.

The correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam said that
this latest of many American air raids on the area
- and one of the most bloody - left 41 local civilians
dead, 23 of them women and children, and another 11
local residents wounded.

The correspondent reported a source in al-Qa'im
Hospital as saying that all those who were injured
are in grave condition.

In its dispatch on the American attacks, Quds Press
reported that the raids affected the villages of
al-Baydah and al-Karabilah and that 41 Iraqi residents
had been killed in the air raid and another 20 wounded.

Al-Jazeera satellite TV reported medical sources had
confirmed about 40 Iraqi deaths in the American raid,
12 of them children, and another 10 wounded.

Eyewitnesses told the Mafkarat al-Islam correspondent
that the US warplane fired another rocket at the houses
after the initial attack once people had gathered to try
to help the victims. This second attack on the local
rescuers greatly increased the death toll, the
witnesses said.

Quds Press quoted local resident Shaykh Ahmad al-Karbuli
as saying that the American aircraft bombed villagers
after they had gathered to help rescue victims and
recover bodies from the initial air strike.

Dr. Ahmad al-'Ani of al-Qa'im General Hospital told
Quds Press that his facility had received about 40
bodies and about 20 wounded people. He said that half
of the victims were women and children and noted that
some of the injured had been severely wounded.

Sources close to the Iraqi Resistance in al-Qa'im told
Quds Press that they have had no presence in the city
for almost a month. There have been attacks near
al-Qa'im and in its environs targeting US forces and
bases, the source acknowledged, but none of those
attacks are launched from al-Qa'im or the area hit
by Monday's air raids.

The US military announced on Monday that it had struck
a house in which what it called "terrorists" had taken
refuge. In a similar attack on what US forces claimed
was a "terrorist hideout" two days earlier, US aircraft
killed 10 Iraqi civilians, including several women and
children, Quds Press noted. On Wednesday, 26 October,
US air raids in the nearby area of ar-Rummanah left
more than 20 villagers dead.

Al-Jazeera reported Iraqi sources as saying that in
Monday's raid the majority of the victims were natives
of the nearby town of al-Hasibah who had taken refuge
in the al-Baydah area following US attacks on their
native village. Unquote
Abbot
2005-11-02 15:03:02 UTC
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Post by Vicegerent
When are Americans ever going to admit that
"their boys" are not the brave men fighting
for their freedoms and rights; but are just
vile murdering thugs right out of Hell?
Oh! I forgot, Iraqis are not 'children of God'
as Jesus said all flesh (people) are - they are
just vermin in the way of the Haliburton oil pirates.
And, they DO have all those weapons of mass destruction.
Vicegerent
Iraqi Resistance Report for Monday, 31 October 2005
*US admits seven American troops killed in 24, hours
as official statistics show Resistance activity at
nine-month high.
Now see if you can help me with this. Above, we have
the US claiming "Resistance activity at nine-month high",
and yet the reported kill rate is at a 2 year low ...
I have billy goats that smell better than this.
Evidence the US are ensuring news doesn't get back to
the reporting stations.
Iron and Clay ... Helping the American government be
a little more honest the American people.
This weeks dead count of: 156 takes the over all US
Soldier killed in Iraq to: 15,212
25 October 02 US Killed in Iraq
26 October 31 US Killed in Iraq
27 October 30 US Killed in Iraq
28 October 14 US Killed in Iraq
29 October 26 US Killed in Iraq
30 October 25 US Killed in Iraq
31 October 28 US Killed in Iraq today.
Al-Anbar Province.
Al-Qa'im.
US warplane blasts houses, then returns to rocket
rescuers, killing 41 Iraqi civilians in savage
pre-dawn raid near al-Qa'im.
An American warplane bombed four houses and one
commercial shop in the al-Baydah area near al-Qa'im
before dawn at 3am Monday morning.
The correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam said that
this latest of many American air raids on the area
- and one of the most bloody - left 41 local civilians
dead, 23 of them women and children, and another 11
local residents wounded.
The correspondent reported a source in al-Qa'im
Hospital as saying that all those who were injured
are in grave condition.
In its dispatch on the American attacks, Quds Press
reported that the raids affected the villages of
al-Baydah and al-Karabilah and that 41 Iraqi residents
had been killed in the air raid and another 20 wounded.
Al-Jazeera satellite TV reported medical sources had
confirmed about 40 Iraqi deaths in the American raid,
12 of them children, and another 10 wounded.
Eyewitnesses told the Mafkarat al-Islam correspondent
that the US warplane fired another rocket at the houses
after the initial attack once people had gathered to try
to help the victims. This second attack on the local
rescuers greatly increased the death toll, the
witnesses said.
Quds Press quoted local resident Shaykh Ahmad al-Karbuli
as saying that the American aircraft bombed villagers
after they had gathered to help rescue victims and
recover bodies from the initial air strike.
Dr. Ahmad al-'Ani of al-Qa'im General Hospital told
Quds Press that his facility had received about 40
bodies and about 20 wounded people. He said that half
of the victims were women and children and noted that
some of the injured had been severely wounded.
Sources close to the Iraqi Resistance in al-Qa'im told
Quds Press that they have had no presence in the city
for almost a month. There have been attacks near
al-Qa'im and in its environs targeting US forces and
bases, the source acknowledged, but none of those
attacks are launched from al-Qa'im or the area hit
by Monday's air raids.
The US military announced on Monday that it had struck
a house in which what it called "terrorists" had taken
refuge. In a similar attack on what US forces claimed
was a "terrorist hideout" two days earlier, US aircraft
killed 10 Iraqi civilians, including several women and
children, Quds Press noted. On Wednesday, 26 October,
US air raids in the nearby area of ar-Rummanah left
more than 20 villagers dead.
Al-Jazeera reported Iraqi sources as saying that in
Monday's raid the majority of the victims were natives
of the nearby town of al-Hasibah who had taken refuge
in the al-Baydah area following US attacks on their
native village. Unquote
Vicegerent
2005-11-02 15:27:24 UTC
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Viewpoints from Texas:

From: Beaver Cole <***@sbcglobal.net>
Subj: How Stupid Can The American People Be?
Date: 11/2/05

How stupid can the American people be? There is
no lie or spin that the government puts out that
the American people do not believe. There is no
trickery, manipulation, pursecution or
extermination that the government orchestrates
that the American people do not believe.

For example: The Great Depression, the enactment
of income taxes on the masses, Pearl Harbor / WW II,
Viet Nam War, Social Security, Abortion is legal,
the AIDS virus, TWA 800, OKC Bombing, Taking God
out of public places and schools, 911- Terrorist
Attacks, todays war with Iraq, the coming
Bird-Virus, etc., etc.

Jesus Christ will not be returning to shake hands
and back-pat those in Washington, state capitols,
corporate leaders of religious organizations and
groups, nor those who willingly or knowingly
support, contribute, fund, or associate with them.

Some say we are a Christian nation. Some say God
Bless America.

Give me a break! If America is a Christian nation,
then my neighbors donkey is the Pope.

Of course, I am just like everyone else, I claim
to be a Christian, but I bet you could not pick me
out of a crowd.

Beaver Cole
Kilgore, Texas

Response:

From: ***@aol.com
Subject: How Stupid Can The American People Be?
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005

If I may answer that question, Beaver,,,,,, Just as
dumb as the Government-Run-Public-Fool-System makes
them. We are now entering our fourth generation of
the victims of this failed system 'teaching' the
victims of this failed system.

To paraphrase "None are so hopelessly enslaved as
those who falsely believe they are free." None
are so hopelessly victimized as those who are told
that they are educated by other victims of the same
failed system.

And then there's the 'established' church - but
that's for another time.

Just Ole Radical
Bob

Posted by: Vicegerent
Vicegerent
2005-11-02 16:08:24 UTC
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Wonder why the news media insists on calling
Iraqi Patriots fighting to liberate their
country from the Yankee invaders, "INSURGENTS"?

Oh! That's right, Americans will swallow anything.
(As is shown by this Jack Foster posting from the
Kentucky Department of Education who swallows all
of that Jesuit priests' cum):
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
Windows NT 5.1; Kentucky Department of Education;
SV1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

Exerpt from:
Knight Ridder Newspapers
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/13055180.htm

Posted on Tue, Nov. 01, 2005
Department of the Interior

Civilian contractors in Iraq dying at
faster rate as insurgency grows
By Seth Borenstein

Knight Ridder Newspapers

(clipped)
As the violence of the protracted war continues
and some 75,000 civilian employees struggle to
rebuild the war-torn nation and support the
military, contractor casualties mount.

Their deaths have more than tripled in the
past 13 months.

As of Monday, 428 civilian contractors had been
killed in Iraq and another 3,963 were injured,
according to Department of Labor insurance-claims
statistics obtained by Knight Ridder.

Those statistics, which experts said were the most
comprehensive listing available on the toll of the
war, are far from complete: Two of the biggest
contractors in Iraq said their casualties were
higher than the figures the Labor Department had
for them.

The dead and injured come from many walks of life,
drawn by money and patriotism. Some are American
citizens. Most are not. They are truckers, police
officers and translators. They're counted only if
they were paid by companies hired by the Pentagon.

Their deaths and injuries were compensated by
insurance policies required by federal law.

The Labor Department lists 156 dead for an L-3
Communications subsidiary in Virginia. The
company, which provides translators who work
with the military, puts the death toll at 167,
of whom 15 were Americans.

The Labor Department's accounting reports that
Halliburton, the largest contractor in Iraq,
has had 30 employees killed in Iraq and 2,471
injured. A Halliburton spokeswoman, Melissa
Norcross, said Tuesday that the company had
lost a total of 77 workers in Iraq, Afghanistan
and its base in Kuwait. One worker is unaccounted
for. Halliburton couldn't give a breakdown by
country.

The government's listing shows the contractors'
casualty rate is increasing. In the first 21
months of the war, 11 contractors were killed
and 74 injured each month on average. This year,
the monthly average death toll is nearly 20 and
the average monthly number of injured is 243.

"You've got a greater number of contractors on
the ground carrying out a greater number of
roles putting them in danger," said Peter W.
Singer, a contracting expert at the Brookings
Institution, a Washington research center.
"And issue No. 3, you've got a much more
dangerous environment." Unquote

(clipped)

Vicegerent
Abbot
2005-11-02 17:50:57 UTC
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Post by Vicegerent
Wonder why the news media insists on calling
Iraqi Patriots fighting to liberate their
country from the Yankee invaders, "INSURGENTS"?
Oh! That's right, Americans will swallow anything.
(As is shown by this Jack Foster posting from the
Kentucky Department of Education who swallows all
Abbot) Eldon, one wonders if your fixation on homosexual acts amounts
to a projection of your own unresolved sexuality.

One wonders if it wasn't just your garden-variety tax problems that
drove your wife to hang herself with an extension cord.

Did she catch you with somebody?
Seth Breidbart
2005-11-02 18:01:28 UTC
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Post by Vicegerent
Iraqi Resistance Report for Monday, 31 October 2005
*US admits seven American troops killed in 24, hours
as official statistics show Resistance activity at
nine-month high.
Now see if you can help me with this. Above, we have
the US claiming "Resistance activity at nine-month high",
and yet the reported kill rate is at a 2 year low ...
7 per day is over 5,000 in two years. The actual total in 2 years is
just over 2,000. Therefore, 7 per day is 2.5 times the average, which
is a very strange value for "2 year low".

Seth
--
"Those who fail to do arithmetic are doomed to talk nonsense." -- John
McCarthy
Vicegerent
2005-11-02 22:12:30 UTC
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Ah! But, where are you getting your figures?
From the Pentagon - the lying SOBs who
have the dumb Americans convinced that
Saddam had weapons of mass destruction,
and had the desire and capability of attacking
the USA in 45 minutes?

John, I think you are a prime example of
those whom Beaver Cole speaks.

Vicegerent
Vicegerent
2005-11-03 16:08:16 UTC
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Ah! Seth,
But, where are you getting your figures? Eh?

Maybe, from the Pentagon - the lying SOBs
who have the dumb Americans convinced that
Saddam had weapons of mass destruction,
and had the desire and capability of
attacking the USA in 45 minutes?

Yes, Seth, I suspect that you are a prime
example of those whom Beaver Cole speaks.

Vicegerent

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