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9/11 Was Inside Government Job
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Vicegerent
2005-07-18 02:47:02 UTC
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From: http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623

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Former Vietnam Combat and Commericail Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was
Inside Government Job
Posted on: 7/17/2005 7:54:00 AM - Columnist
By Greg Szymanski

There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ
Wittenberg the morning of 9/11. He knew it was an inside job from the
get-go, knowing the 'big boys' were up to the same dirty tricks
they played in the Kennedy assassination and Pearl Harbor.

The government may have fooled millions of Americans with its
cockamamie official story, but the former fighter pilot who flew over
100 combat missions in Vietnam and who sat for 35 years in the cockpit
for Pan Am and United, wasn't one of them.

Now, almost four years later, Wittenberg is still shaking his head in
disbelief more than ever, saying the country he loved and fought so
bravely 40 years ago has fallen in the deep, dark and sinister hands of
fascist leaders who are quickly turning America into a military state.

Although back in the beginning he seemed like a lone wolf in the hen
house, he's noticed, especially in the last six months, more
Americans waking up to the cold reality that the U.S. government staged
9/1l, started an illegal war in Iraq and basically is criminally
responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of innocent lives here
and abroad.

Even though it's a hard pill for some to swallow, Wittenberg says
Americans need to "wake up and wake up fast," holding those in
government responsible even though it may mean a total makeover of the
American political system.

And for these despicable actions now taking place in the name of
freedom, the former F-100 Vietnam fighter pilot, who knows what it's
like to be in harms way, directed a little military jab toward the
Commander and Chief, saying: "Oh, why doesn't he wake up and just
fall on his sword."

Talking about his obvious disgust for the Bush administration, he
bundles 9/11 into the neo con's "neat little contrived war
package," saying it was the lynch pin needed to usher in a state of
constant fear, a climate of war and a perfect setting for the
unconstitutional Patriot Act and eventual martial law.

"If you would have told me back in the 1970s this was going to happen
to America, I would have never imagined it. It's just not the same
country I grew up in as all our Constitutional freedoms are being
stripped away right before our very eyes," said Wittenberg in a
telephone conversation from his home in Carefree Az., a picturesque and
serene place on the map near Scottsdale.

"The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain
and simple. I also thoroughly went over the recent 9/11 Commission
report, finding about 110 outright lies and numerous other half-truths
and omissions in an obvious cover-up of not only the truth but of a
criminal investigation.

"Condaleeza Rice lied through her teeth when she testified and if I
would have had her on the stand for 10 minutes, I would have had her in
tears."

Concerning 9/11, Wittenberg knew right off the bat the hijackers - who
couldn't handle a Piper Cub - couldn't fly the 'big birds" he
flew for so many years, knowing the planes were also incapable of
performing such high speed maneuvers as the government claimed.

He also knew the possibility of jet fuel bringing down the towers made
no sense. In fact, he knew the whole 9/11 story made about as much
sense as crossing the Atlantic in a row boat.

And right after 9/11 when it was unpopular and considered almost
treasonous to question the government, Wittenberg became the first
commercial airline pilot with experience flying the jets used in 9/11
to publicly denounce the government story.

Although speaking publicly on many occasions about the fictitious
government account of 9/11, it wasn't until Sept. 16, 2004, his
controversial remarks aired on Wing TV, sparking a heated debate among
pilots and others clinging to the flimsy government account.

Knowing the flight characteristics of the "big birds" like the back
of his hand, Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no
possibility that Flight 77could have "descended 7,000 feet in two
minutes, all the while performing a steep 270 degree banked turn before
crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the
lawn."

Wittenberg claimed the high speed maneuver would have surely stalled
the jetliner sending it into a nose dive, adding it was "totally
impossible for an amateur who couldn't even fly a Cessna to maneuver
the jetliner in such a highly professional manner, something Wittenberg
said he couldn't do with 35 years of commercial jetliner experience.

"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is
impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said
Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to
the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's
through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable
flying.

"I had to be trained to use the new, computerized systems. I just
couldn't jump in and fly one," he added.

Finding more inconsistencies with the government story about Flight 77,
Wittenberg recalled the recent statements made by a flight controller
on an ABC 20/20 television program three months ago.

"If you listened to her carefully only an experienced pilot probably
would have known that what she was saying was scripted," said
Wittenberg. "Remember the transponder was turned off on Flight 77 and
when this occurs, all the particular flight data like air speed and
even the plane's flight identification goes with it.

"All that's left on the controller's screen is a green blip,
that's it. But here you have this flight controller on 20/20 saying
she was tracking the flight with specific air speed and other
coordinates which was totally impossible once the transponder was
turned off. How would she even have known the flight number? The whole
story is a pack of lies and this is just another example."

And from the moment Wittenberg called attention to the lies, he's
been in the cross hairs defending his story, defending it by using a
little bit of psychology, a lot of history and asking critics to answer
questions before drawing conclusions.

"I've learned over the years, it's hard to change anybody's
mind when they really aren't listening," said Wittenberg. "So, I
just decided to fire back a lot of questions to those people who
believe the government story.

"I ask them explain how Building No.7 collapsed? I ask them why
haven't the "black boxes" been recovered? I ask them to explain
how jet fuel - fuel that burns cold not hot -- could bring down two
high rise structures when more than 90% of the fuel on board burned
outside the buildings?"

And Wittenberg has hundreds of other tough questions ready, but said
it's also important to put 9/11 and the Iraq war in a historical
prospective.

"Is 9/11 and the phony war on terror any different or more serious
than Pearl Harbor and World War II?," asks Wittenberg. "The bottom
line is all wars are contrived and it is these rich bankers and
financiers who have pulled the strings and who have put these contrived
events like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor into motion."

Turning to the recent London bombings, Wittenberg said he's tired of
the "talking heads' trying to analyze how to counter terror when
"the real cause and effect issues" about the root problems with
America and the world are being ignored.

"It's simply bizarre. Maybe our one-sided foreign policy that keeps
getting us into all this trouble around the world should be seriously
questioned," said Wittenberg. "If we are really fighting terror,
why are our borders just to the south completely wide open? It's a
joke."

Claiming the entire neo con scenario now playing out in America and
around the world is based on the attempt to establish a one world
government controlled by a select few, he said it's difficult to
figure out their true motives, adding he can only offer an educated
guess based on what he's studied and read.

"Power corrupts, money isn't enough and these people want total
control," added Wittenberg. "These elites actually think they are
better than everybody else and basically want power and control over
the diminishing resources by creating a one world government.

Regarding another terror attack on American soil coming on the heels of
the London bombings, he said "it's not if but when," claiming the
unconstitutional Patriot Act is waiting in the wings to silence those
Americans who may not fall in line with the government's eventual
takeover.

"They passed it for a reason. The problem with our two party system
is that the same group of gangsters controls both parties," said
Wittenberg, who didn't vote for Bush or Kerry in the last election
and was the former Arizona state chairman for Pat Buchanon's failed
presidential run in 2000.

Although Wittenberg remains politically active and abreast of world
affairs, he has left the political forefront, trying instead to raise
public awareness about the danger of the neo con agenda.

"More people are listening now, but it doesn't surprise me that
still a lot of people just don't want to get involved, thinking
things are just fine in America," he added. "These people are
perfectly content to play golf, watch the ballgame and not get
involved."

Wittenberg, who retired the day before 9/11 having a strange and
unexplainable premonition, said high gas prices have led him to sell
his private plane, saying it was getting too expensive to even "fly
for fun' anymore. Unquote

Posted for Eldon Warman, a former captain with AAL who
flew the Boeing 767, and who firmly agrees with Russ
Wittenberg's assessment and conclusions.

By: Vicegerent
Wayne Brasch
2005-07-18 04:07:55 UTC
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Post by Vicegerent
From: http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623
Former Vietnam Combat and Commericail Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was
Inside Government Job
Posted on: 7/17/2005 7:54:00 AM - Columnist
By Greg Szymanski
There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ
Wittenberg the morning of 9/11.
And how does any of this diatribe have to do with taxes?

Wayne Brasch
Diablo
2005-07-18 15:49:56 UTC
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Post by Wayne Brasch
Post by Vicegerent
From: http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623
Former Vietnam Combat and Commericail Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was
Inside Government Job
Posted on: 7/17/2005 7:54:00 AM - Columnist
By Greg Szymanski
There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ
Wittenberg the morning of 9/11.
And how does any of this diatribe have to do with taxes?
Wayne Brasch
Wayne,

How obtuse can you possibly be!!!!??!!

If 9/11 was an inside job, then all the OTHER LIES that followed and
were financially FORCED on the people, have EVERYTHING to do with taxes!

How do you think these illegal actions were paid for.

Why should anyone be held financially responsible for an ILLEGAL war?!
Bishop
2005-07-19 01:04:39 UTC
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Post by Wayne Brasch
Post by Vicegerent
There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ
Wittenberg the morning of 9/11.
And how does any of this diatribe have to do with taxes?
If I may suggest.......if you have a killfile, this is one that belongs
there.
Ron
2005-07-19 01:08:07 UTC
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Post by Bishop
Post by Wayne Brasch
Post by Vicegerent
There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ
Wittenberg the morning of 9/11.
And how does any of this diatribe have to do with taxes?
If I may suggest.......if you have a killfile, this is one that belongs
there.
Uh..oh..better watch it Diablo......Shrub's mechanic is here.
Abbot
2005-07-18 18:10:25 UTC
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Post by Vicegerent
Posted for Eldon Warman, a former captain with AAL who
flew the Boeing 767, and who firmly agrees with Russ
Wittenberg's assessment and conclusions.
By: Vicegerent
Abbot) "Posted for Eldon Warman" ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Ron
2005-07-18 18:16:35 UTC
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Post by Abbot
Post by Vicegerent
Posted for Eldon Warman, a former captain with AAL who
flew the Boeing 767, and who firmly agrees with Russ
Wittenberg's assessment and conclusions.
By: Vicegerent
Abbot) "Posted for Eldon Warman" ROTFLMAO!!!!!
You ever fly a Boeing 767 Squirmy?

I didn't think so.
Abbot
2005-07-18 18:29:13 UTC
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Post by Ron
Post by Abbot
Post by Vicegerent
Posted for Eldon Warman, a former captain with AAL who
flew the Boeing 767, and who firmly agrees with Russ
Wittenberg's assessment and conclusions.
By: Vicegerent
Abbot) "Posted for Eldon Warman" ROTFLMAO!!!!!
You ever fly a Boeing 767 Squirmy?
I didn't think so.
Abbot 2) A mere reply is not an argument. MoRon.
shrubkiller
2005-07-18 18:34:51 UTC
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Post by Abbot
Post by Ron
Post by Abbot
Post by Vicegerent
Posted for Eldon Warman, a former captain with AAL who
flew the Boeing 767, and who firmly agrees with Russ
Wittenberg's assessment and conclusions.
By: Vicegerent
Abbot) "Posted for Eldon Warman" ROTFLMAO!!!!!
You ever fly a Boeing 767 Squirmy?
I didn't think so.
Abbot 2) A mere reply is not an argument. MoRon.
So we've noted.
ArthurP
2005-07-22 14:13:13 UTC
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Then please tell me:

1) Why did it work?

2) Why did it not go over budget?

3) How did they get all the various government departments involved to
cooperate?

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