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American (and Canadian) Judicial System Totally Corrupt
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Vicegerent
2005-11-18 00:03:07 UTC
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From:
http://www.massnews.com/2003_Editions/3_March/030703_mn_american_legal_system_corrupt.shtml

American Legal System Is Corrupt Beyond Recognition,
Judge Tells Harvard Law School

By Geraldine Hawkins
March 7, 2003

The American legal system has been corrupted almost
beyond recognition, Judge Edith Jones of the U.S.
Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, told the
Federalist Society of Harvard Law School on February 28.

She said that the question of what is morally right is
routinely sacrificed to what is politically expedient.
The change has come because legal philosophy
has descended to nihilism.

[clipped for brevity]
Read the rest of the story at the above website

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Brock
2005-11-18 02:10:00 UTC
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Post by Vicegerent
http://www.massnews.com/2003_Editions/3_March/030703_mn_american_legal_system_corrupt.shtml
American Legal System Is Corrupt Beyond Recognition,
Judge Tells Harvard Law School
The Magna Carta invalidated both systems over 200 years ago, none of
their decisions are valid because the law was never official.
Vicegerent
2005-11-20 16:28:48 UTC
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Brock, you had better purchase a proper history book.
The Magna Carta was an edict of the people of England,
through their Anglo-Saxon barons (community leaders)
officially established in 1225 AD.

More on the corrupt nature of courts:

From: http://www.restoreliberty.com/involserv.htm

Quote:

"The courts were left with two options after the
13th amendment: They would either remind the
politicians that exceptions to the 13th amendment
must be clarified to the people by a further
amendment to the Constitution; or they would
use fiction of law and carve out exceptions to
the 13th amendment.

Today, we have a record, and sadly, the courts
have shown time and time again that they stand
willing to carve out exceptions whenever the
politicians want something bad enough that
any person with common sense can see is a
servitude.

But the main problem with slavery is what
Abraham Lincoln called a "thick coating,"
meaning that an institution of slavery is always
surrounded by enormous sums of money since
the slaves that are exploited number in the millions.
In fact, I would submit that the enslavement and
plunder of the Jews under the National Socialists
back in Hitler's day was far more oppressive than
pre Civil War slavery was in America, and the
National Socialists didn't have to pay one penny
to secure the use of the Jewish people's labor.

It cannot be denied that the federal and state
governments of today tax and garnish people's
labor on a massive scale. Basically, what socialism
does is enslave A for the benefit of B. How many
billions of dollars of labor per year that is extorted
from workers by the force of law I do not know,
but the amount is no doubt enormous."

[clipped for brevity - read the rest on the above URL]

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J D Brown
2005-11-21 06:39:07 UTC
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Viceregent,

Your shocking lack of knowledge and understanding of American as well as
British history certainly would suggest you were American, but speaks very
poorly of you as a Canadian. I had thougth better of the Canadian school
system.

That aside, you are as ignorant of history as you are illiterate.

The Magna Carta was not in any way, shape, or form an expression of the
"English" people, and certainly not through their Anglo-Saxon barons. For
one thing, the so called "English" people had no voice and were for the most
part not in the least concerned with or affected by anything in the Magna
Carta. At the time in question, the "English" people had few if any rights.
The Anglo Saxons and their lords had been conquered and subjugated by this
time, and were not in positions of power for the most part, and had little
to say concerning the running of the English Kingdom. If you actually knew
any history, which you obviously don't, you would know that it was the
Norman Barons who were not in the least "English" who forced the then King
to accede to their demands concerning their rights and priveleges and sign
the charter, and you would also know that there is exactly nothing in that
charter that is even remotely in effect to this day other than the
convention of and specifically our version of trial by ones peers and upon
sufficiency of evidence. Taxes on income, and property were an accepted part
of life even then, so get a grip, get a life, and get over yourself.
Jimmy_For_Freedom
2005-11-21 13:05:23 UTC
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J D Brown, your need for glasses is obvious. Viceregent was simply
quoting an article and not his own observation. Your opinion then is,
shall we say, rather point less.

One wonders whether you are able to gather the facts at all when you
can't see.
Post by J D Brown
Viceregent,
Your shocking lack of knowledge and understanding of American as well as
British history certainly would suggest you were American, but speaks very
poorly of you as a Canadian. I had thougth better of the Canadian school
system.
That aside, you are as ignorant of history as you are illiterate.
The Magna Carta was not in any way, shape, or form an expression of the
"English" people, and certainly not through their Anglo-Saxon barons. For
one thing, the so called "English" people had no voice and were for the most
part not in the least concerned with or affected by anything in the Magna
Carta. At the time in question, the "English" people had few if any rights.
The Anglo Saxons and their lords had been conquered and subjugated by this
time, and were not in positions of power for the most part, and had little
to say concerning the running of the English Kingdom. If you actually knew
any history, which you obviously don't, you would know that it was the
Norman Barons who were not in the least "English" who forced the then King
to accede to their demands concerning their rights and priveleges and sign
the charter, and you would also know that there is exactly nothing in that
charter that is even remotely in effect to this day other than the
convention of and specifically our version of trial by ones peers and upon
sufficiency of evidence. Taxes on income, and property were an accepted part
of life even then, so get a grip, get a life, and get over yourself.
Vicegerent
2005-11-22 00:09:31 UTC
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JD, have you ever heard the expression:
"History is written by the victors."

And, it is obvious that you are one of the many
who are easily deceived by those writers of fiction.

The Anglo-Saxon system was based directly on
the Hebrew system that existed during the time
of Judges. (Which was between approximately
1500 BC to 1100 BC).

The Saxon Barons were not overcome until the
early 1300s AD when England was subjected
to the schemes of King Edward I and Pope
Boniface VIII. Part of this scheme was the
incorporation (creating a make-believe ship)
of the Crown, a term previously used as
a synonym of the clan head man (Kin or King).

But, such true history is contrary to the designs
of Chaldean eliteism, the philosophic base that
exudes from the Vatican and the Pharisee
dogma.

Vicegerent
Abbot
2005-11-22 18:54:02 UTC
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Abbot) Again we have the tin foil hat wearing Eldon Warman telling us
that the largely transparent workings of democracy are really the
product of 700 year old conspiracies hatched by the Pope.

And Jimmy tells us that is 20/20 vision.

I say it's paranoid schizophrenia.
Post by Vicegerent
"History is written by the victors."
And, it is obvious that you are one of the many
who are easily deceived by those writers of fiction.
The Anglo-Saxon system was based directly on
the Hebrew system that existed during the time
of Judges. (Which was between approximately
1500 BC to 1100 BC).
The Saxon Barons were not overcome until the
early 1300s AD when England was subjected
to the schemes of King Edward I and Pope
Boniface VIII. Part of this scheme was the
incorporation (creating a make-believe ship)
of the Crown, a term previously used as
a synonym of the clan head man (Kin or King).
But, such true history is contrary to the designs
of Chaldean eliteism, the philosophic base that
exudes from the Vatican and the Pharisee
dogma.
Vicegerent
Abbot
2005-11-21 13:44:51 UTC
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Post by Brock
Post by Vicegerent
http://www.massnews.com/2003_Editions/3_March/030703_mn_american_legal_system_corrupt.shtml
American Legal System Is Corrupt Beyond Recognition,
Judge Tells Harvard Law School
The Magna Carta invalidated both systems over 200 years ago, none of
their decisions are valid because the law was never official.
Abbot) The real irony is that according to detaxers governments are
"make-believe ships", thus making the founding or guiding documents of
those governments "fictions".

Apparently this maxim holds until a detaxer finds a court case or a
foundational document, which can be misconstrued to mean what he needs
it to mean.

Detax theory is nothing if not contradictory.
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