Iraq INSURGENTS - Big Loses

[Vicegerent]

Remember:
IRAQ INSURGENTS = Americans

IRAQI PATRIOTS = Iraqi People
Don't let CNN and CNBC confuse you as to who are the 'evil forces'.
Sent : November 7, 2005 7:46:36 PM
To : 1 Iron & Clay <***@clear.net.nz>
Subject : Iraqi Resistance Report for Monday, 7 November 2005

US controls 40 percent of al-Qa'im by mid-afternoon Monday
but Resistance losses said small as fighters pull back
according to plan. Wrecked hulks of US vehicles litter the
streets, attesting to heavy fighting and American casualties.

Iron and Clay ... Helping the American government be a little
more honest the American people.

This weeks reported dead count of: 328 takes the over all
reported US Soldier killed in Iraq to: 15,540

I believe the red highlighted numbers will be raised shortly
as medical records come in.

I would expect the war for al-Qa'im to reflect a similar casualty
rate as did Al-Fallujah where 500 were transported to Germany
in just 2 days and medical staff said most were dead before
they arrived.

Of course because they left Iraq allegedly alive they were
not counted as casualties in Iraq.

According to US the Syrian area Resistance are better
equiped that those in Al-Fallujah.

A low kill rate in al-Qa'im is therefore "unlikely" and the
battle is not done.

1 November 23 US reported Killed in Iraq
2 November 10 US reported Killed in Iraq
3 November 17 US reported Killed in Iraq
4 November 18 US reported Killed in Iraq
5 November 51 US reported Killed in Iraq
6 November 81 US reported Killed in Iraq
7 November 128 US reported Killed in Iraq

(Reports clipped for brevity)

Neal King Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>

Posted by: Vicegerent

[Richard Macdonald]

Post by Vicegerent
IRAQ INSURGENTS = Americans
IRAQI PATRIOTS = Iraqi People
Don't let CNN and CNBC confuse you as to who are the 'evil forces'.
Sent : November 7, 2005 7:46:36 PM
Subject : Iraqi Resistance Report for Monday, 7 November 2005
US controls 40 percent of al-Qa'im by mid-afternoon Monday
but Resistance losses said small as fighters pull back
according to plan. Wrecked hulks of US vehicles litter the
streets, attesting to heavy fighting and American casualties.
Iron and Clay ... Helping the American government be a little
more honest the American people.
This weeks reported dead count of: 328 takes the over all
reported US Soldier killed in Iraq to: 15,540

I wonder if there are any names of these alleged
casualties that have not been reported by DOD?

Surely there would be some reports in the press of
soldiers/marines/sailors/airmen who died and were
not reported as casualties by DOD.

Let's see some documentation of who died that was not reported.

[Vicegerent]

Richard, I will re-post here an opinion by a Texas patriot
who provides a better answer to your question than you
might accept from me:

Viewpoints from Texas:

From: Beaver Cole <***@sbcglobal.net>
Subj: How Stupid Can The American People Be?
Date: 11/2/05

How stupid can the American people be? There is
no lie or spin that the government puts out that
the American people do not believe. There is no
trickery, manipulation, pursecution or extermination
that the government orchestrates that the American
people do not believe.

For example: The Great Depression, the enactment
of income taxes on the masses, Pearl Harbor / WW II,
Viet Nam War, Social Security, Abortion is legal,
the AIDS virus, TWA 800, OKC Bombing, Taking God
out of public places and schools, 911- Terrorist
Attacks, todays war with Iraq, the coming
Bird-Virus, etc., etc.

Jesus Christ will not be returning to shake hands
and back-pat those in Washington, state capitols,
corporate leaders of religious organizations and
groups, nor those who willingly or knowingly
support, contribute, fund, or associate with them.

Some say we are a Christian nation. Some say
"God Bless America".

Give me a break! If America is a Christian nation,
then my neighbor's donkey is the Pope.

Of course, I am just like everyone else, I claim
to be a Christian, but I bet you could not pick me
out of a crowd.

Beaver Cole
Kilgore, Texas

Response:

From: ***@aol.com
Subject: How Stupid Can The American People Be?
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005

If I may answer that question, Beaver,,,,,, Just as
dumb as the Government-Run-Public-Fool-System
makes them. We are now entering our fourth
generation of the victims of this failed system
'teaching' the victims of this failed system.

To paraphrase "None are so hopelessly enslaved
as those who falsely believe they are free." None
are so hopelessly victimized as those who are told
that they are educated by other victims of the same
failed system.

And then there's the 'established' church - but
that's for another time.

Just Ole Radical
Bob

Posted by: Vicegerent

[Richard Macdonald]

Post by Vicegerent
Richard, I will re-post here an opinion by a Texas patriot
who provides a better answer to your question than you

So you CANNOT come up with any names for the 12-13,000
difference you allege from the DOD list. Surely if some 12-13,000
had been killed in Iraq 7 Afghanistan and not reported by DOD
there should be some report of a name by some relative.

[Vicegerent]

Why would you expect me to come up with names?

I am sure that names will be exposed in the near future;
however, as I understand the game, many volunteer
recruits are recent immigrants from Central America,
so that may preclude publicity of those who came back
from Iraq in a body bag, or have just been buried in
mass unmarked graves in Iraq.

As you may have noticed, my post was a repeat of
Neal King's (NZ) daily report which he gleans from
Arabic sources. I'm sure the Arab reporters do not
take the time or effort to gather the names of
'tits up' American GIs being hauled off the battlefield
in helicopters.

Vicegerent

[Richard Macdonald]

Post by Vicegerent
Why would you expect me to come up with names?
I am sure that names will be exposed in the near future;
however, as I understand the game, many volunteer
recruits are recent immigrants from Central America,
so that may preclude publicity of those who came back
from Iraq in a body bag, or have just been buried in
mass unmarked graves in Iraq.

So you claim that there are some 12-13,000 unnamed
KIA's from Iraq, yet you cannot come up with ANY
names to support your assertions. Surely with all of the
press and opposition politicians hunting for Bush's head,
at least one of them would have gotten some names
of those killed that were not reported by DOD. Come
on, show us some real evidence, name names.

[Vicegerent]

Now, isn't this interesting!! Richard.

Maybe you should be asking your
question to the American DoD.

Post by Richard Macdonald
So you claim that there are some 12-13,000 unnamed
KIA's from Iraq, yet you cannot come up with ANY
names to support your assertions. Surely with all of the
press and opposition politicians hunting for Bush's head,
at least one of them would have gotten some names
of those killed that were not reported by DOD. Come
on, show us some real evidence, name names.

Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>
Sent : November 9, 2005 3:11:42 PM
To : 1 Iron & Clay <***@clear.net.nz>
Subject : MAJOR NEWS FLASH !!! DoD announces:
8100 (!) US soldiers killed in Iraq only by IED

DoD announces: 8100 (!) US soldiers killed in Iraq only by
IED / see also Global Security.org

[IED = improvised-explosive-device]

50% of the dead is 8100? Am I reading this correctly?
Did it say that to begin with?

"In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half of
all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100 servicemembers -
according to Pentagon statistics."

It's now been altered to.
"Iraq and wounded more than 8,100 servicemembers,
according to Pentagon statistics."

US Soldier killed in Iraq to: 15,540 ... that was my count
as of last week.

Yes I'm willing to agree that DoD has made a stuffup in
the terms used. They then corrected the stuffup to cover
the truth that someone is now looking very red faced about.

Enter Neals Casio Calculator SL-100B a solar powered
job that has never failed me yet.

If 8100 is half the number killed then the total admitted
here is 16200.


HOWEVER AS THE LEAK USED THE TERM "MORE
THAN HALF" I'LL LEAVE MY COUNT AS IT IS AT 15,540.

Sorry for those on my email list who gain access to kill
numbers every day, I may be a little low with my counting
at 15,540 ... but I have been saying just that ... haven't I ?

The one thing I've learnt about Government is that if you
leave them long enough to their own devices and just
observe, they always let slip sooner or later.

P.I.G.S.
Permanently Inept Government Servants

Lets here from the guys who just let the cat out
of the bag.

Neal

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials are
looking for ways to combat the improvised-explosive-
device menace, a senior military officer said today.

In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half of
all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100 servicemembers
- according to Pentagon statistics.

"I think probably this whole effort to defeat IEDs is one
of the most important things that is taking place in the
building," said Marine Lt. Gen. James T. Conway,
operations director at the Joint Staff during a Pentagon
news conference, today.

DoD officials said they have come up with plans to
increase the visibility and effectiveness of the Joint IED
Defeat Task Force. The recommendations have been
approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and will be briefed
to Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld soon,
Conway said.

The proposal would add more people to the task force
and place a three-star general in charge. Conway was
quick to say this does not mean that the task force
under Army Brig. Gen. Joseph Votel has not done
a good job.

"There is no shortage of funding to the effort," Conway
said. "There's no shortage of emphasis coming out of
theater that encourages us to come to a solution. ...
But it has been discussed that perhaps adding a
three-star oversight to the effort might further enhance
its ability to get things done."

The task force grew out of an Army effort begun soon
after soldiers began taking casualties from these
homemade bombs in Iraq. The devices are sometimes
quite sophisticated: Tripwires, pressure plates, suicide
bombers or remote triggers can set them off. And car
bombs are another way to deliver IED attacks.

The military will spend roughly $1.5 billion this calendar
year alone on defeating the problem, Conway said.

There is no shortage of bomb-making material in Iraq.
Saddam Hussein bought billions of dollars worth of
ordnance and distributed it all over the country.
Coalition and Iraqi soldiers and police are still finding
and destroying vast arsenals of explosives.

Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said then-
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz made the
IED task force a priority and now-acting deputy Gordon
England has continued it. "How this department can
organize and manage the challenge that we face with
IEDs has been one of signal import, reflected by the
fact that the deputy secretary of defense has made
it a priority," Di Rita said.

Officials said they have studied how armies handled
the threat in the past. "If you go all the way back to
the British experience in Northern Ireland, they had
problems with it," Conway said. "The Israelis in
northern Israel and Lebanon have had problems with it.
And we've tried to study what their experiences were
and to learn from that."

The task force is working in the United States and
overseas to combat the threats these devices pose
to servicemembers. Officials have studied how the
devices are financed, made and used in combat -
searching for a way to break the IED chain.

Force protection also plays a part and the military
has provided better personal armor and armored
vehicles, and devised tactics to defeat or to lessen
the exposure to IEDs. "So we're looking at that
whole facet associated with IEDs because it's the
only tool the enemy really has left in order to be
able to take us on and cause casualties," Conway
said. "And when we defeat that one method, you
know, it's over."

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2005/20051103_3236.html

Posted by: Vicegerent

[Richard Macdonald]

Post by Vicegerent
Now, isn't this interesting!! Richard.
Maybe you should be asking your
question to the American DoD.

Post by Richard Macdonald
So you claim that there are some 12-13,000 unnamed
KIA's from Iraq, yet you cannot come up with ANY
names to support your assertions. Surely with all of the
press and opposition politicians hunting for Bush's head,
at least one of them would have gotten some names
of those killed that were not reported by DOD. Come
on, show us some real evidence, name names.

Sent : November 9, 2005 3:11:42 PM
8100 (!) US soldiers killed in Iraq only by IED
DoD announces: 8100 (!) US soldiers killed in Iraq only by
IED / see also Global Security.org

Now, do you have a link to the actual alleged DOD
announcement, of just someone's unsubstantiated musings.

[Vicegerent]

Sent : November 9, 2005 10:54:59 PM
To : 1 Iron & Clay <***@clear.net.nz>
Subject : DoD admission still on the net .. look here.

Thank you for the second link .. the admission from
DoD that in fact the total number of US soldiers
KILLED in Iraq from March 2003 to November 2005
now stands right where I have been saying all
along at 15,540 .

This along with the report some weeks ago that
the "Wounded requiring medical attention back
in the US between March 2003 and March 2004
has been admitted by DoD to be a massive
103,000"

AMERICA READ IT AND WEEP !!!
Your government has screwed you.
Lucky you voted for the pretty one right !

WHY HAVEN'T WE WITNESSED MASS
NUMBERS OF ARMED AMERICANS STORMING
THE WHITEHOUSE AND OVER THROWING
THIS SO CALLED GOVERNMENT ?

DoD Working to Combat IED Menace
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.

In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half
of all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100
servicemembers - according to Pentagon statistics.

This from
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/11/mil-051103-afps03.htm

The altered text belongs to
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2005/20051103_3236.html

Same story but they had better control over
the slipup and have changed the entire sentence ..
read below.

DoD Working to Combat IED Menace
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.

IEDS have killed more than half of all those killed
in Iraq and wounded more than 8,100
servicemembers, according to Pentagon
statistics.
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Vicegerent

[Richard Macdonald]

Sent : November 9, 2005 10:54:59 PM
Subject : DoD admission still on the net .. look here.
Thank you for the second link .. the admission from
DoD that in fact the total number of US soldiers
KILLED in Iraq from March 2003 to November 2005
now stands right where I have been saying all
along at 15,540 .

See below, you are confusing WIA with KIA.

This along with the report some weeks ago that
the "Wounded requiring medical attention back
in the US between March 2003 and March 2004
has been admitted by DoD to be a massive
103,000"
AMERICA READ IT AND WEEP !!!
Your government has screwed you.
Lucky you voted for the pretty one right !
WHY HAVEN'T WE WITNESSED MASS
NUMBERS OF ARMED AMERICANS STORMING
THE WHITEHOUSE AND OVER THROWING
THIS SO CALLED GOVERNMENT ?
DoD Working to Combat IED Menace
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.
In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half
of all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100
servicemembers - according to Pentagon statistics.

Here is the ACTUAL quote from the cited source:

"IEDS have killed more than half of all those killed in Iraq
and wounded more than 8,100 servicemembers, according
to Pentagon statistics."

Note, the 8,100 is Wounded not Killed.

So IED's have killed more than half of the killed and wounded 8,100.

This from
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/11/mil-051103-afps03.htm

So you still cannot come up with any names of thse you
allege have been killed and not reported by DOD.

[Abbot]

Post by Richard Macdonald
So you still cannot come up with any names of thse you
allege have been killed and not reported by DOD.

Abbot) Whether it's Porisky, Jimmyforbrains, or Eldon it's all the
same. . .they claim to have, as proof, some sort secret information
which the rest of us can't be allowed to see.

When one asks for that information the detaxer always comes up short.
Either the information, once gathered, doesn't back up the claim, or
it never existed in the first place.

Despite having been busted in this ruse countless times detaxers
continue to use it.

Go figure why.

[Richard Macdonald]

Post by Abbot

Post by Richard Macdonald
So you still cannot come up with any names of thse you
allege have been killed and not reported by DOD.

Abbot) Whether it's Porisky, Jimmyforbrains, or Eldon it's all the
same. . .they claim to have, as proof, some sort secret information
which the rest of us can't be allowed to see.

Not only that, he can't tell wounded from killed in his readings.

Post by Abbot
When one asks for that information the detaxer always comes up short.
Either the information, once gathered, doesn't back up the claim, or
it never existed in the first place.
Despite having been busted in this ruse countless times detaxers
continue to use it.
Go figure why.

Because he is suffering from a severe cranial-rectal prolapse?

[Vicegerent]

It is obviously of little value to debate with a fool,
as you obviously are, Richard.

What sort of names do you want?

John Doe, Bill Smith, Randy Jones, Ben Friggendorf,
Joe Mahoney, Sandy Beach....

How many more names do you need?

Vicegerent

[Abbot]

Post by Vicegerent
It is obviously of little value to debate with a fool,
as you obviously are, Richard.
What sort of names do you want?
John Doe, Bill Smith, Randy Jones, Ben Friggendorf,
Joe Mahoney, Sandy Beach....
How many more names do you need?
Vicegerent

Abbot) No, Eldon you are the fool. A fool so foolish he thinks everyone
else is stupid.

The names serve as proof of your wild claim. . .which so far is just
that. . .a wild claim.

[Richard Macdonald]

Post by Vicegerent
It is obviously of little value to debate with a fool,
as you obviously are, Richard.
What sort of names do you want?
John Doe, Bill Smith, Randy Jones, Ben Friggendorf,
Joe Mahoney, Sandy Beach....
How many more names do you need?

Cite reliable sources, I have already shown you to misquote sources in your
assertions.

Post by Vicegerent
In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half
of all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100
servicemembers - according to Pentagon statistics.

Here is the ACTUAL quote from the cited source:

"IEDS have killed more than half of all those killed in Iraq
and wounded more than 8,100 servicemembers, according
to Pentagon statistics."

Note, the 8,100 is Wounded not Killed.

So IED's have killed more than half of the killed and wounded 8,100.

This from
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/11/mil-051103-afps03.htm

[Vicegerent]

Seems that you are having difficulty reading, Richard.

Quote:

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.

In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half
of all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100
servicemembers - according to Pentagon statistics.

This from [Global Security website]:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/11/mil-05110...

The altered text comes from [this Pentagon website]:

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2005/20051103_3236.html

Same story but they had better control over
the slipup and have changed the entire sentence ..
read below.

DoD Working to Combat IED Menace
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.

IEDS have killed more than half of all those killed
in Iraq and wounded more than 8,100
servicemembers, according to Pentagon
statistics. Unquote

Why are you accusing me of altering the text?

Vicegerent

[Richard Macdonald]

Post by Vicegerent
Seems that you are having difficulty reading, Richard.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.
In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half
of all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100
servicemembers - according to Pentagon statistics.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/11/mil-05110...

This link is like your assertions: "404 not found".
So you assert, yet you claim the DoD released the information,
and what the DOD released is quite different from what you state.

Post by Vicegerent
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2005/20051103_3236.html
Same story but they had better control over
the slipup and have changed the entire sentence ..
read below.
DoD Working to Combat IED Menace
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.
IEDS have killed more than half of all those killed
in Iraq and wounded more than 8,100
servicemembers, according to Pentagon
statistics. Unquote
Why are you accusing me of altering the text?

Because you have not provided any source other
that the DoD which is different from what you said.

[Abbot]

Post by Vicegerent
Why would you expect me to come up with names?
I am sure that names will be exposed in the near future;

Abbot) Oh, really you've been posting this unbelievable propaganda for
months and we don't have one name yet.

Or do you have your own definition of "near future" like you do
everything else?

Post by Vicegerent
however, as I understand the game, many volunteer
recruits are recent immigrants from Central America,
so that may preclude publicity of those who came back
from Iraq in a body bag, or have just been buried in
mass unmarked graves in Iraq.

Abbot) That's just plain insane. According to Eldon the U.S. armed
forces, who pride themselves in not leaving anyone behind, toss
thousands of their buddies in mass graves with the presumption that
nobody back home in Central America (or even cousin Hector in New
Jersey) will miss them.

And nobody has the name of a single U.S. soldier tossed in these
graves. Not one grief stuck, guilt ridden U.S. soldier returning home
has spoke out or gone to cousin Hector to spill the beans about tossing
his poor relative into a pit in the middle east.

Eldon, until now I never really judged the effect paranoid
schizophrenia has on intelligence. You are one sick, impaired old man.

Post by Vicegerent
As you may have noticed, my post was a repeat of
Neal King's (NZ) daily report which he gleans from
Arabic sources. I'm sure the Arab reporters do not
take the time or effort to gather the names of
'tits up' American GIs being hauled off the battlefield
in helicopters.

Abbot) Well that's kind of racist, isn't it? According to Eldon the
unnamed "Arab" reporters (everyone in this tale is unnamed) presented
with a career making story don't have the sense or the professionalism
to get the name of a single U.S. soldier tossed in the pit and thus
break the story of a life time wide open.

It seems Eldon presumes these "Arabs" to be pretty stupid.

Post by Vicegerent
Vicegerent

[Vicegerent]

Post by Abbot
Abbot) Well that's kind of racist, isn't it? According to Eldon the

unnamed "Arab" reporters (everyone in this tale is unnamed) presented
with a career making story don't have the sense or the professionalism
to get the name of a single U.S. soldier tossed in the pit and thus
break the story of a life time wide open.

Post by Abbot
It seems Eldon presumes these "Arabs" to be pretty stupid.

On the contrary, Jack, I, the one you insist on calling
Eldon, obviously believe that the Iraqi PATRIOTS are
a lot smarter than the American INSURGENTS, and
the Arab reporters would not belittle themselves over
pieces of Yankee shit.

Your suggesting that the Arab reporters should be
taking American GIs names in their count of those
leaving Iraq 'tits up'. Does that mean that you
count the turds in the toilet when you take a
constitutional?

Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>
Sent : November 8, 2005 11:45:08 PM
To : 1 Iron & Clay <***@clear.net.nz>
Subject : Iraqi Resistance Report for Tuesday,
8 November 2005

Iraqi Resistance Report for Tuesday, 8 November 2005

·Powerful nine-hour US assault employing aerial
bombardment, artillery, rockets, and tanks, on
al-Qa'im fails to break through Iraqi Resistance
defenses on Tuesday. US losses said heavy.

Resistance prepares for likely US chemical weapons
attack. Five US troops reported killed in Tuesday
morning truck bombing in al-Qa'im.

US agents infiltrate Syrian territory and blow up
Syrian cellular telephone communication tower in
bid to cut off al-Qa'im from outside world.

Iron and Clay ... Helping the American government
be a little more honest the American people.

Last weeks reported dead count of: 328 takes
the over all reported US Soldier killed in Iraq to: 15,540

8 November 93 US Killed in Iraq today
***********************************************************

Posted by: Vicegerent

[Abbot]

Abbot) Eldon (and everyone including the Human Rights Tribunal knows
who you are) your cute response does not answer the questions that
arrise as to the stupidity of your theory, which is an insult to your
detax posse as well as the Iraqi people.

Eldon, you seem to think that your tiny posse is so stupid that they
won't see that an insurgency, which hates America and George Bush,
wouldn't pass up a golden opportunity to publicly humiliate the U.S.
by disclosing this alleged outrage.

According to you thousands of hither to unknown America troops are
selected, based on their ethnicity, for secret burials on Iraqi
battlefields and not a single G.I. or Iraqi has spilled the beans.
Inexplicably, neither has a single insurgent documented this alleged
outrage. Instead, you claim the Iraqi insurgency is sub-humanly stupid
and just don't a care about the bodies.

You are nuts, old man.

Post by Abbot

Post by Abbot
Abbot) Well that's kind of racist, isn't it? According to Eldon the

unnamed "Arab" reporters (everyone in this tale is unnamed) presented
with a career making story don't have the sense or the professionalism
to get the name of a single U.S. soldier tossed in the pit and thus
break the story of a life time wide open.

Post by Abbot
It seems Eldon presumes these "Arabs" to be pretty stupid.

On the contrary, Jack, I, the one you insist on calling
Eldon, obviously believe that the Iraqi PATRIOTS are
a lot smarter than the American INSURGENTS, and
the Arab reporters would not belittle themselves over
pieces of Yankee shit.
Your suggesting that the Arab reporters should be
taking American GIs names in their count of those
leaving Iraq 'tits up'. Does that mean that you
count the turds in the toilet when you take a
constitutional?
Sent : November 8, 2005 11:45:08 PM
Subject : Iraqi Resistance Report for Tuesday,
8 November 2005
Iraqi Resistance Report for Tuesday, 8 November 2005
·Powerful nine-hour US assault employing aerial
bombardment, artillery, rockets, and tanks, on
al-Qa'im fails to break through Iraqi Resistance
defenses on Tuesday. US losses said heavy.
Resistance prepares for likely US chemical weapons
attack. Five US troops reported killed in Tuesday
morning truck bombing in al-Qa'im.
US agents infiltrate Syrian territory and blow up
Syrian cellular telephone communication tower in
bid to cut off al-Qa'im from outside world.
Iron and Clay ... Helping the American government
be a little more honest the American people.
Last weeks reported dead count of: 328 takes
the over all reported US Soldier killed in Iraq to: 15,540
8 November 93 US Killed in Iraq today
***********************************************************
Posted by: Vicegerent

[Vicegerent]

Sent : November 9, 2005 10:54:59 PM
Subject : DoD admission still on the net .. look here.

The admission from the US Dept. of Defense that in
fact the total number of US soldiers KILLED in Iraq
from March 2003 to November 2005 now stands
right where I have been saying all along at 15,540 .

This along with the report some weeks ago that
the "Wounded requiring medical attention back
in the US between March 2003 and March 2004
has been admitted by DoD to be a massive
103,000"

AMERICA READ IT AND WEEP !!!
Your government has screwed you.
Lucky you voted for the pretty one right !

WHY HAVEN'T WE WITNESSED MASS
NUMBERS OF ARMED AMERICANS STORMING
THE WHITEHOUSE AND OVER THROWING
THIS SO CALLED GOVERNMENT ?

DoD Working to Combat IED Menace
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.

In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half
of all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100
servicemembers - according to Pentagon statistics.

This from
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/11/mil-05110...

The altered text belongs to
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2005/20051103_3236.html

Same story but they had better control over
the slipup and have changed the entire sentence ..
read below.

DoD Working to Combat IED Menace
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 3, 2005 - Pentagon officials
are looking for ways to combat the improvised-
explosive-device menace, a senior military officer
said today.

IEDS have killed more than half of all those killed
in Iraq and wounded more than 8,100
servicemembers, according to Pentagon
statistics.
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[Abbot]

Post by Vicegerent
In-Depth Coverage IEDS have killed more than half
of all those killed in Iraq - more than 8,100
servicemembers - according to Pentagon statistics.

Abbot) You are insane, Eldon. According to the Department of Defense
more the 8,100 number refers to WOUNDED servicemembers. This wording is
in the very same link you gave us.

You may argue that the DOD is lying, but for you to say the link says
what it doesn't and then give a link that pulls a 404 error as evidence
is just plain insane.