Sodom & Gomorrah

[Vicegerent]

Sodom and Gomorrah and the American prayer 2005
By: Neal King

This post is going to excite some ... especially self righeous
Zionist christians.

However, here I wish to show the reasons for The Lords total
destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities of the plain
and (it was not due of sexual sin as your religious leader
will insist) but due to "Wrong Justice".

I'll be quoting a small portion of the book of Jasher where
it's very clear why these two cities were destroyed and from
there I wish to show why Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother
of Harlots ... more commonly refered to as "America" is about
to be destroyed.

The alternative is simple, "The American people" would have
to pray a pray similar to the one you'll find at the bottom
of the post.

The term "Righeousness" is the complete opposite of the term
"iniquity" and therefore

Righteousness means Right Judgement or Right Justice whereas
"iniquity" means Wrong Justice or Wrong Judgement..

After reading this post, should you be an American or living in
America, you may consider leaving American shores and running
for your life and not turning back for anything..

For historical evidence we now refer to Jasher Ch 19 and we read.

1 And the cities of Sodom had four judges to four cities, and
these were their names, Serak in the city of Sodom, Sharkad
in Gomorrah, Zabnac in Admah, and Menon in Zeboyim.

2 And Eliezer Abraham's servant applied to them different names,
and he converted Serak to Shakra, Sharkad to Shakrura, Zebnac
to Kezobim, and Menon to Matzlodin.

3 And by desire of their four judges the people of Sodom and
Gomorrah had beds erected in the streets of the cities, and if
a man came to these places they laid hold of him and brought
him to one of their beds, and by force made him to lie in them.

4 And as he lay down, three men would stand at his head and
three at his feet, and measure him by the length of the bed,
and if the man was less than the bed these six men would
stretch him at each end, and when he cried out to them they
would not answer him.

5 And if he was longer than the bed they would draw together
the two sides of the bed at each end, until the man had reached
the gates of death.

6 And if he continued to cry out to them, they would answer him,
saying, Thus shall it be done to a man that cometh into our land.

Comment: Do you remember the photographs showing the Americans
torturing Iraqi men women and childred? In the years between
1991 and 2003, US driven scanctions are directly responsible
for 600,000 Iraqi children deaths. For the last 3 years another
252,000 Iraqi Children have died under the boots of American men.

7 And when men heard all these things that the people of the
cities of Sodom did, they refrained from coming there.

8 And when a poor man came to their land they would give him silver
and gold, and cause a proclamation in the whole city not to give
him a morsel of bread to eat, and if the stranger should remain
there some days, and die from hunger, not having been able to
obtain a morsel of bread, then at his death all the people
of the city would come and take their silver and gold which
they had given to him.

9 And those that could recognize the silver or gold which they
had given him took it back, and at his death they also stripped
him of his garments, and they would fight about them, and he
that prevailed over his neighbor took them.

Comment: That is a "choice" America made in "Bretton Woods"
and using the power of the IMF and World Bank. Americans found
it easier to take the blood of other nations, as a parasite
living off other nations than to work at real life itself.

Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots personified ...
more commonly refered to as "America", has survived off the kick
backs of other nations using the US$ in international trade.
When the nation of Iraq chose (due to scanctions through the
US$) to begin trading in the EURO, America the Killer of Nations,
deceived the world and destroyed the nation.

10 They would after that carry him and bury him under some of
the shrubs in the deserts; so they did all the days to any one
that came to them and died in their land.

11 And in the course of time Sarah sent Eliezer to Sodom, to
see Lot and inquire after his welfare.

12 And Eliezer went to Sodom, and he met a man of Sodom fighting
with a stranger, and the man of Sodom stripped the poor man of
all his clothes and went away.

13 And this poor man cried to Eliezer and supplicated his favor
on account of what the man of Sodom had done to him.

14 And he said to him, Why dost thou act thus to the poor man who
came to thy land?

15 And the man of Sodom answered Eliezer, saying, Is this man
thy brother, or have the people of Sodom made thee a judge this
day, that thou speakest about this man?

16 And Eliezer strove with the man of Sodom on account of the
poor man, and when Eliezer approached to recover the poor man's
clothes from the man of Sodom, he hastened and with a stone
smote Eliezer in the forehead.

17 And the blood flowed copiously from Eliezer's forehead,
and when the man saw the blood he caught hold of Eliezer,
saying, Give me my hire for having rid thee of this bad blood
that was in thy forehead, for such is the custom and the law
in our land.

18 And Eliezer said to him, Thou hast wounded me and requirest
me to pay thee thy hire; and Eliezer would not hearken to the
words of the man of Sodom.

19 And the man laid hold of Eliezer and brought him to Shakra
the judge of Sodom for judgment.

20 And the man spoke to the judge, saying, I beseech thee my
lord, thus has this man done, for I smote him with a stone
that the blood flowed from his forehead, and he is unwilling
to give me my hire.

21 And the judge said to Eliezer, This man speaketh truth to
thee, give him his hire, for this is the custom in our land;
and Eliezer heard the words of the judge, and he lifted up a
stone and smote the judge, and the stone struck on his
forehead, and the blood flowed copiously from the forehead
of the judge, and Eliezer said, If this then is the custom
in your land give thou unto this man what I should have given
him, for this has been thy decision, thou didst decree it.

Comment: When America illegally attacked Iraq, any court of
Right Justice would have stripped America of twice the value
of the destruction and forced Americans to pay. Instead we
find America taking Iraqi oil to pay both American Debt and
allegedly to build Iraq. In this America strikes at Iraqs
head with a stone releasing "bad Saddam" and then compels
Iraq to pay it's Hire.

22 And Eliezer left the man of Sodom with the judge, and he
went away.

23 And when the kings of Elam had made war with the kings of
Sodom, the kings of Elam captured all the property of Sodom,
and they took Lot captive, with his property, and when it was
told to Abraham he went and made war with the kings of Elam,
and he recovered from their hands all the property of Lot as
well as the property of Sodom.

24 At that time the wife of Lot bare him a daughter, and he
called her name Paltith, saying, Because God had delivered
him and his whole household from the kings of Elam; and
Paltith daughter of Lot grew up, and one of the men of Sodom
took her for a wife.

25 And a poor man came into the city to seek a maintenance,
and he remained in the city some days, and all the people of
Sodom caused a proclamation of their custom not to give this
man a morsel of bread to eat, until he dropped dead upon the
earth, and they did so.

26 And Paltith the daughter of Lot saw this man lying in the
streets starved with hunger, and no one would give him any
thing to keep him alive, and he was just upon the point of
death.

27 And her soul was filled with pity on account of the man,
and she fed him secretly with bread for many days, and the
soul of this man was revived.

28 For when she went forth to fetch water she would put the
bread in the water pitcher, and when she came to the place
where the poor man was, she took the bread from the pitcher
and gave it him to eat; so she did many days.

29 And all the people of Sodom and Gomorrah wondered how this
man could bear starvation for so many days.

30 And they said to each other, This can only be that he eats
and drinks, for no man can bear starvation for so many days
or live as this man has, without even his countenance changing;
and three men concealed themselves in a place where the poor
man was stationed, to know who it was that brought him bread
to eat.

31 And Paltith daughter of Lot went forth that day to fetch
water, and she put bread into her pitcher of water, and she
went to draw water by the poor man's place, and she took out
the bread from the pitcher and gave it to the poor man
and he ate it.

32 And the three men saw what Paltith did to the poor man,
and they said to her, It is thou then who hast supported him,
and therefore has he not starved, nor changed in appearance
nor died like the rest.

33 And the three men went out of the place in which they were
concealed, and they seized Paltith and the bread which was in
the poor man's hand.

34 And they took Paltith and brought her before their judges,
and they said to them, Thus did she do, and it is she who
supplied the poor man with bread, therefore did he not die
all this time; now therefore declare to us the punishment
due to this woman for having transgressed our law.

35 And the people of Sodom and Gomorrah assembled and kindled
a fire in the street of the city, and they took the woman and
cast her into the fire and she was burned to ashes.

Such was the "iniquity" or "wrong Judgement or Wrong Justice
of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Headlines with reguard to New Orleans:

Troops begin combat operations in New Orleans
US troops given 'shoot to kill' orders in New Orleans
Police On The Rampage in New Orleans 'Stop the car right
now,' reporter told. `Back up, or I'll shoot'

The Judge:
The President of the United had flown his plane down to 1700
feet to get a better look at the flood damage! He looked very
serious and concerned. That was yesterday. Today he played
golf. No kidding.

In the refugee camp thousands of starving people (90% black
and poor) stood and squatted in mud and trash behind metal
barricades, under an unforgiving sun, with heavily armed
soldiers standing guard over them. Having spent their fourth
day waiting to be rescued, the city fell deeper into chaos,
with people roaming the city looking for food and corpses
rotting in the sun.

A man walked past the bodies dragging a pallet loaded with
big bottles of ginger ale, some plates and a frying pan.
To the rest of America watching the tragedy unfold on their
televisions, he was one of the looters, denounced by President
Bush. But to the people inside the convention centre, he was
one of a band of heroes keeping them alive.

Such is the "iniquity" or "wrong Judgement or Wrong Justice
of REV 17: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written,
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND
ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

***********************************************************
The American Prayer 2005.

We The People of America call on the name of God to repent
of His ways.

Lord We The People of America require you Lord to repent
of your destruction of the peoples of the cities of Sodom
and Gomorrah.

Should you not repent of your destruction of Sodom and
Gomorrah, then Lord we require you to alter your standards
of sin.

If you are unwilling to repent of this destruction, or
alter your standards Lord, it would mean that you may pour
out a similar destruction upon We, the People of America.
And, We The People strongly protest against this.

Therefore we thank you for repenting of the destruction
of Sodom and Gomorrah, and God Bless America !

Amen

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http://iron-clay.cloudnine.net.nz/why_come_out.html

But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow
the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes
the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because
of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his
blood." - Eze 33:6

Posted by: Vicegerent

[Vicegerent]

From: Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>
Sent: September 6, 2005 2:24:15 AM
Subject: All things are begining to come together ... take a look

I want to refer to several email and comments I've made over the
last several months and drag them together to see something that
frankly only dawned on me today..

The reason for this email is to show that not only was "The Temple
post" correct over all, but to show once and for all, what Revelation
17:5. MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND
ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH actually is.

I want to refer to some email posts from the past and have copied
them below ... they are:

Subject: The Temple ... I believe I've found THE TEMPLE ... is
reposted below for your reference.
and
Subject: Sodom and Gomorrah and the American pray 2005 ...
(First post on this thread)

I refer to Matthew and Daniel for the answer and then confirm
with what we are seeing right now unfold before our very eyes ...
this has to be both the most exciting and terrorable time in
living existance to be here on this rock.

Matthew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Note that the writer is calling us to think and work out and
understand something that may not be obvious at face value.

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
(Ever wondered what God will use that Wall for???)

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any
thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take
his clothes.

Now lets look at the Daniel reference and see if you notice
what I just did.

Daniel 11 : 31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall
pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily
sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Now some are going to tell me that this has already happened.
Did you know that when the Jewish scribes of old looked at the
"Coming of the Messiah" they had decided that there were actual
TWO Messiah's coming in stead of ONE COMING TWICE ??
I believe that some portions of Daniel may in fact refer to
some things happening up to three times and all looking similar.

Now to the point of this post.

Look at the terms "abomination that maketh desolate" and
"abomination of desolation" and "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH "
I believe these three are the same thing.

The Abomination that makes desolate, the Abomination of (or
belonging to) desolation and the Abominations of or belonging
to the earth. If these are the same thing then the "Temple"
I found made to the god of "forces" is where (lets quote it
again) "arms shall stand on his part" ... please refer to
The Temple post below for an understanding of that comment.

But now look at this.
Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast,
these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and
naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Have you noticed that Already there is a great upswell of anti
- America attitude running around, especially since their little
storm and the way they havn't handled that??? ... the media is
now saying that America can't handle it's own problems, can't
abide by it's own procedures for disasters at home, America is
a disaster looking for a planet to happen on and is totally the
wrong one to be left in Iraq or any other trouble spot. This is
the sentiment of the main line media in the last few days.

Now look at Rev 18:

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon
the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation
of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of
every unclean and hateful bird. (With Left wing and Right wing)

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her
fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed
fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are
waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of
her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that
ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered
her iniquities. (Or Wrong Justice or Wrong Judgement)

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her
double according to her works: in the cup which she hath
filled fill to her double.

From the above and the evidence we have below I'm stating that

America is looking very much like Mystery Babylon The Great,
The Mother of Harlets and ABOMINATIONS of The Earth" and "the
whore" and "abomination that maketh desolate" and "abomination
of desolation".

I believe there is now very solid evidence that "The Temple"
I found is totally correct and that the US will take a military
stand using that Nuclear Hardened Military Base in Israel within
the next 85 days.

Neal

Posted by: Vicegerent

[Vicegerent]

Subject: The Temple ... I believe I've found THE TEMPLE
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:49:24 +1200
From: Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>

The Temple.

Some will attempt to tell you that "The Temple" is the men
and women that stand right with God.

For this to be the case in this instance there's going to be
a load of people exploding in a military fashion all over the
world and all at the same time.

Some will also say that this (what I refer to below) has
already happened, however Daniel said it's at "The End" and
as far as I'm aware "The End" hasn't happened yet. So these
are garbage thinking. There has been a "type of" happen yes
... but the "actual" Daniel says is "at the end".

If you can follow me on this and back track to the email and
sites I've been drawn to I believe you will finally see "The
Temple" the Zionists have been looking for.

It is so obvious I'm astounded in myself that I've missed it
this long.

Zionists claim that antichrist is to stand in the holy place
in a temple

Zionists believe that antichrist demand worship.

It is said that at this time an awakening happens to show
who he is.

Zionists also say that the Temple does not please the Lord
and he refuses it.

They claim this because the temple is there for anti-christ
to "stand in" and also rejected by The Lord that it must be
there within the time of the end.

Thus Zionists believe that before "antichrist" can be seen
the temple is to be built.

What the real shake up will be is where The Zionist christians,
who are actually worshiping Satan, believe that the land they
call Israel with the frauds that are there claiming to be Jews
are to rule the entire earth in end times.

According to what I show below as to why David couldn't build
the Temple, this Zionist belief is a clear Satanic Deception.

When the basis and root of their belief goes up in smoke who
knows what they will be thinking.

Fact is the story of the ten virgins and the "Exta Jar of
Oil.pdf" answers that question only too well. (on website)

Of course I could be completely wrong, The Zionists may build
a Temple and began butchering animals with all the "Greenies
and RSPCA" all clapping hands and cheering "praise god for
Israel" ... but I have my doubts .... very serious doubts.
Doctor Who coming to save us all in his police box is a
greater likelyhood in reality.

Not all is as it seems in the Zionist eye, but a deception
that is right out of "Doctor Who" is no deception at all,
there has to be part truth and part lie in the Zionists
deception.

It is critical to read the portions below (bottom) to get
the background as to how this thing moves. Only by it's
actions can we identify what this thing is and by now you
should be able to see it very clearly.

Point to consider:
Daniel 11.

37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the
desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify
himself above all.

38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces:
and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

"shall he honour the God of forces"
Forces:
In some interpretations this term "forces" is "armaments"
... when we take a look at the portions before this we may
begin to see this has been happening right before us in
our news.

Here is the term in Hebrew. 04581 zwem ma'owz maw-oze':
strength, strong, fortress, hold, forces, fort , rock,
strengthen

1) place or means of safety, protection, refuge, stronghold
1a) place of safety, fastness, harbour, stronghold a fortified
place; a defence

Now if this "he" honours the god of strength and fortified
places what do you think the appropriate "Temple" would be.

1. a nice christian or jewish building with stained glass
windows and animal blood flowing out the door, or
2. A Military Base.

Here's another thing to consider.
In the following portion I am not wanting to give any
impression of any connection in character between King
David and any American president. I hope that can be made
clear.

The only reason I'm showing you this is to give evidence
as to what or why God may "reject" a nice new temple.

The Zionists claim that the temple built in this time is
refused by God.

Isaiah 66
¶ 1Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the
earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build
unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those
things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look,
even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and
trembleth at my word.

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that
sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that
offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he
that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they
have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in
their abominations.

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their
fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when
I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes,
and chose that in which I delighted not.

See in 1 Chron 22 9 Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who
shall be a man of rest; as in the above verse 1. ... it seems
that a place of "rest" and not "war is required for such a
temple.

David was a mighty man of God (I do not believe we have on this
earth today such a man) and yet when it came to building "The
Temple" God refused to allow him to build ... why .. because
his hands were covered in war and blood.

Here I believe we have evidence why "The Temple of antichrist"
is refused ... because it is built by a man of Blood.

3 But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for
my name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed
blood.

Zionists claim that antichrist is to stand in the holy place
in a temple and demand worship.

5 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand:)

The term "Stand" is 100% a military stand. Matthew refers
us to Daniel where every term is military ... see clip below.

We saw the other day My email
Subject: American Base in Israel. Matthew 24:15 stand in the
holy place Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005
From: Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>

That the Americans have all but finished a new Military base
within Israel.
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/
asp/jerrysnewsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=928&z=1

PLEASE REVISIT THE WEBSITE I REFER TO AND READ THE SIGN FOR
YOURSELF. GO TO THE SITE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF "THE TEMPLE". !!!!

There is a sign at the gate that says "this base will be
completed on August 31st 2005"

That is the start point of the window I'm looking at.
The finish point of that same window is (Correct dates) one
of the following 22 Sep ... or ... 09 Oct ... or ... 12 Nov
... or ... 29th November all in 2005,

Thus what I am saying is something has to happen between
August 31st 2005 and 22 Sep ... or ... 09 Oct ... or ...
12 Nov ... or ... 29th November all in 2005 that could bring
about the events of "The Middle of The Night" on the story of
the ten virgins.
This is something that shows everyone that is looking that
time just got real short and a whole lot shorter that they
think. This event is so big that you cannot miss it.

The demand of worship:

If worship is standing with hands raised making noise along
with the help of hype of instruments etc then maybe stained
glass windows is appropriate.

I'm not getting into the subject of Zionist christian witchcraft
right now but "HYPE" is witchcraft and is Satanic.
Those mixed up with such churches would be well advised to not
go back for anything.

Here's what "worship of the Beast" means according to Scripture.
For the full working of this term refer to my OWG page ... ¾ of
the way down the page
http://iron-clay.cloudnine.net.nz/one_world_government.html

WORSHIP means: to fawn or crouch to, prostrate oneself in homage,
to kiss (up to) like a dog licking his master's hand, servile
cringe or bow, such as pertains to a servant or slave, slavishly;
with base submission or obsequiousness, as servile fear obedience,
held in subjection; dependent, the state of involuntary subjection
to a master; slavery; bondage, ready obedience; prompt compliance
with the orders of a superior, servile submission; mean or
excessive complaisance, The act of submitting; the act of yielding
to power or authority; surrender of the man/woman and power to the
control or government of another.

Would the demand to "pass over your nukes and obey the Roadmap,
or we let the dogs in to destroy you" fit this "Worship" ????

I've been referring to a military stand ... lets backtrack
for you.

Matthew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Note that the writer is calling us to think and work out and
understand something that may not be obvious at face value.
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
(Ever wondered what God will use that Wall for???)
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any
thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take
his clothes.

Now looking at that the Zionists have said that "anti-christ"
has his "temple" and takes a military stand and demands
worship.

Scripture does not support a one man anti-christ and without
a "one man anti-christ" there is little or no grounds for a
"temple if the stained glass type to be built"
But certainly what is allowable by Scripture is a Military
Base and the demand of "pass over your nukes and obey the
Roadmap, or we let the dogs in to destroy you".

From what I can see in the Greek and Hebrew in Matthew 24 and

Daniel 2
The only thing that I can see from here that could impossibly
fit into the window of 31 Aug to 22 September 2005 is for
Israel to hit Iran's Russian built reactor sites triggering
off a chain of events the Zionist christians cannot come
back from.

Russia has said a year ago it will "vaporize Israel" if she
hits the $800 million Russian investments in Iran.
Russia only gets paid out after the power stations are up
and running.

Israel has said it will not allow Iran to have nuclear power.
America has given Israel bunker buster bombs ... (what for)
and moved the EU patriot missiles into Israel.

However the US patriot missiles are valueless against Russian
Sunburns.

US gear is so far out of date it's not funny anymore, their
resources are more than 50% spent in the Afghan/Iraqi wars.
Matthew says that "he stands in the holy place" .... but
looking at related Scripture in Daniel that is a military
stand. In the above link we have your "Stand" already.

America has said it will support Israel with intell and
airstrikes to soffen the Iranian defenses.
I also expect America to attack Syria because that's the
nearest Russian missiles that could "vaporize Israel".

When it all goes down and I don't believe it won't be long
now America will take the military stand but this protection
will have a cost and it's "cost" that is the demand of worship
of The Beast.

See Worship above.

Part of that cost was spelt out in the email ... (header below)
but I've been saying this for over 2 years.
Subject: G8 urge Israel to sign Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty
"immediately":
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:25:20 +1200
From: Iron_Clay <***@clear.net.nz>

The rest will be obey the Middle East Road Map.
The price will not be accepted and the protection will be
withdrawn allowing the rest of Daniel to happen.

Due to the above information I believe the military base now
being built and that is to be finished by August 31st 2005
is the Temple the Zionists are looking for.
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=928&z=1

References:

21 ¶ And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom
they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall
come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from
before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the
covenant.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully:
for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a
small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of
the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not
done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them
the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast
his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against
the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the
south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and
mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast
devices against him.
26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall
destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall
down slain.
27 And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief,
and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper:
for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches;
and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall
do exploits, and return to his own land.
29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the
south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore
he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against
the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and
have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute
the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice,
and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt
by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be
strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct
many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by
captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a
little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them,
and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of
the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he
shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god,
and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods,
and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished:
for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor
the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall
magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces:
and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with
gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

David not to build the Temple.

1 Chron 22
¶ Then he called for Solomon his son, and charged him to build
an house for the LORD God of Israel.
7 And David said to Solomon, My son, as for me, it was in my
mind to build an house unto the name of the LORD my God:
8 But the word of the LORD came to me, saying, Thou hast
shed blood abundantly, and hast made great wars: thou shalt
not build an house unto my name, because thou hast shed much
blood upon the earth in my sight.
9 Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man
of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round
about: for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace
and quietness unto Israel in his days.
10 He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son,
and I will be his father; and I will establish the throne of
his kingdom over Israel for ever.


1 Chron 28
2 Then David the king stood up upon his feet, and said, Hear
me, my brethren, and my people: As for me, I had in mine heart
to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of the
LORD, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for
the building:
3 But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for my
name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed blood.
4 Howbeit the LORD God of Israel chose me before all the
house of my father to be king over Israel for ever: for he hath
chosen Judah to be the ruler; and of the house of Judah,
the house of my father; and among the sons of my father he
liked me to make me king over all Israel:
5 And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many sons,)
he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of
the kingdom of the LORD over Israel.
6 And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my
house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and
I will be his father.

Claim the temple is refused by God.

Is 66
¶ 1Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth
is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me?
and where is the place of my rest?
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things
have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look,
even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth
at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that
sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that
offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that
burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have
chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their
abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their
fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when
I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes,
and chose that in which I delighted not.


Clip from Matthew and Daniel showing this stand is Military.

Clip...
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Abomination: bdelugma bdelugma bdel'-oog-mah; a detestation,
(specially) idolatry; abomination. to stink; to be disgusted,
by implication detest abhor, abominable.

Desolation: erhmwsiv eremosis er-ay'-mo-sis; despoliation;
desolation, to lay waste literally or figuratively; bring to,
make desolate, come to nought, lonesome, by implication waste,
desert, desolate, solitary, wilderness, through the idea of
empty expanse; a space of territory, extensive; often including
its inhabitants; coast, county, fields, ground, land, region,
from a form of an obsolete primary caw chao (to "gape" or
"yawn"); a "chasm" or vacancy; impassable interval; gulf

Stand: isthmi histemi his'-tay-mee; to stand transitively or
intransitively; abide, appoint, bring, continue, covenant,
establish, hold up, lay, present, set up, stanch, stand.

in the readeth: anaginwskw anaginosko an-ag-in-oce'-ko;
fto know again, by extension to read. it often means by
implication repetition, intensity, to "know" absolutely;
allow, be aware of, feel, have know-ledge, perceived,
be resolved, be sure, understand.

Understand: noiew noieo noy-eh'-o; to exercise the mind; observe,
to comprehend, heed; consider, perceive, think, understand.

We note here that Christ is referring us to read Daniel to know
and understand what he is referring to. We note that although
a similar thing had happened just a few years before, (Antiochus
Epiphanes caused an altar to be erected on the altar of burnt-
offering, on which sacrifices were offered to Jupiter Olympus.
(Comp. 1 Macc. 1:57) however Christ did not refer to this more
recent incident, (which was documented and recorded).

We also note that Christ had come into Jerusalem, attended
the temple, then left and the following day re-entered the
temple. It is my 'conjecture only', that on one of these
occasions, and probably the second, Christ read from the
book of Daniel in the temple and was referring His disciples
to this reading, telling them that they should "re-read and
know and exercise their mind, observe, to comprehend, and
have full knowledge of" what he was saying right then.

Therefore we are going to take a break from Mathew 24 and
take a look at Daniel for a greater view of these terms.

Daniel 9:
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut
off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that
shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the
end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war
desolations are determined.

Destroy: txv shachath shaw-khath'; to decay, causatively ruin
literally or figuratively, batter, cast off, corrupt-er, thing,
destroy-er, destruction), lose, mar, perish, spill, spoiler,
destroy utterly, waste(-r).

City: rye æiyr eer; or (in the plural) re æar awr; or rye æayar
a city a place guarded by waking or a watch, in the widest
sense even of a mere encampment or post, town.

Flood: Pjv sheteph sheh'-tef; or Pjv sheteph shay'-tef; a
deluge literally or figuratively, flood, outrageous, overflowing.

War: hmxlm milchamah mil-khaw-maw'; in the sense of fighting,
a battle the engagement, generally, war, warfare, battle,
fight-ing, war-rior.

Determined: Urx charats khaw-rats'; to point sharply,
literally to wound; figuratively, to be alert, to decide,
bestir self, decide, decree, determine, maim, move.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one
week: (seven year treaty .. not with Israel but with many)
and in the midst of the week (three and a half years from
11 April 2002) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation
to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall
make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that
determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Whilst we go through this short portion of the latter part
of verse 27, I'd like you to take note or "re-read and know
and exercise their mind, observe, to comprehend, and have
full knowledge of" the number of military terms used, and
also the type of weapons we have now in relation to these
terms.

overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate,
even until the consummation, and that determined shall be
poured upon the desolate.

Overspreading: Pnk kanaph kaw-nawf'; an edge or extremity;
specifically of a bird or army; a wing, bird, flying,
overspreading, uttermost part, winged.

(This wing term is related to the standards of the Roman
army, which were an abomination to the Jews. These standards,
rising over a site were a sign that the place had fallen
under the Romans army.)

Abominations: Uwqv shiqquwts shik-koots'; or Uqv shiqquts
shik-koots'; disgusting, filthy; especially idolatrous or
concretely an idol:- abominable filth detestable (thing).
to loathe, pollute:- abhor, make abominable, have in
abomination, detest, utterly.

Consummation: hlk kalah kaw-law'; a completion; completely;
also destruction; altogether, be utterly consumed,
consummation, was determined, full, utter end, riddance.

Determined: Urx charats khaw-rats'; to point sharply,
literally to wound; figuratively, to be alert, to decide;
bestir self, decide, decree, determine, maim, move.

Poured: Ktn nathak naw-thak'; to flow forth literally or
figuratively; by implication, to liquefy; drop, gather
together, melt, pour forth - out.

Desolate: Mmv shamem shaw-mame'; to stun; grow numb),
devastate or figuratively stupefy; make amazed, be astonied,
be an astonishment, be, bring into, unto, lay, lie, make
desolate-ion, places, be destitute, destroy, lay, lie, make
waste, wonder.

Dan 9 27 reads And he shall confirm the covenant with many
for one week: and in the midst of the week, he shall cause
the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the an edge
or extremity; specifically of a bird or army; a wing, bird,
flying, overspreading, uttermost part, winged, of disgusting,
filthy; especially idolatrous or concretely an idol, abominable
filth detestable thing, to loathe, pollute, abhor, make
abominable, have in abomination, detest, utterly, he shall
make devastate or figuratively stupefy; make amazed - wonder,
be astonied, be an astonishment, bring into, unto, lay, lie,
make desolate-ion, places, be destitute, destroy, lay, lie,
make waste, even until the a completion; completely; also
destruction;

altogether, be utterly consumed, consummation, was determined,
full, utter end, riddance, and that to point sharply, literally
to wound; figuratively, to be alert, to decide; bestir self,
decide, decree, determine, maim, move, shall be to flow forth
literally or figuratively; by implication, to liquefy; drop,
gather together, melt, pour forth - out, upon the to stun;
grow numb), devastate or figuratively stupefy; make amazed,
be astonied, be an astonishment, be, bring into, unto, lay,
lie, make desolate-ion, places, be destitute, destroy, lay,
lie, make waste, wonder.

Now that has never happened before, therefore we can safely
assume that that is what Christ was referring to.

Back to Matthew 24 and we should note from the above why the
following words are used. For some reason there appears to be
an urgency about the leaving, just as there was when Sodom and
Gomorrah when Lot was taking his time, the angels took hold of
him physically removed him quickly. Lot's wife looked back and
didn't make it. The two cities were made liquid with fire,
right after Lot was out.

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Judaea: Ioudaia Ioudaia ee-oo-dah'-yah; the Judaean land (i.e.
Judaea), a region of Palestine, Judaea. in the sense of as a
country; Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah, of Judaea.

Flee: feugw pheugo fyoo'-go; apparently a primary verb; to
run away literally or figuratively; by implication, to shun;
by analogy, to vanish, escape, flee.

Here is my opinion from the terms used as to what Christ was
referring to in "15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination
of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the
holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)"

From the beginning of the last week, or the start of the last

seven years, one can count 3 ½ years then someone will make
a stand. The term stand is the same term used in Eph 6:13 where
Paul says 'once done all "stand"' and this is a continuing
stand, it did not mean stand for one hour or day, it meant to
take and hold in a warfare type situation.

Some say that anti-christ has to stand or sit in the temple,
and demand the Jews worship him. This is not the case
according to these Scriptures. However if the stand is a
warfare stand it's consistent with the rest of Scripture.

I believe the outcome will be the total destruction of the
area around Jerusalem at the very least, although it seems that
because of the weapons used this destruction will be far greater
in area.

Mt 24:15 .. Mr 13:14 .. Lu 21:20 is interpreted of the eagles,
the standards of the Roman army, which were an abomination to
the Jews. These standards, rising over a site were a sign that
the place had fallen under the Romans army.

In those days almost the entire religion of the Roman camp
consisted in worshipping the ensign, swearing by the ensign,
and in preferring the ensign before all other gods. In our day
these ensigns are simply military flags. Can you recognise how
the American people look at their flag or ensign. The worship
is simply the devotion to the nations ideals.

All we need to do is look at Iraq over resent times to see
the same thing. I matters not whether the US broke every
international law, that Israeli provided data was known to
be constructed to deceive the world into believing there were
real reasons for the invasion of Iraq, what matters is the
pride of America and the flag waving idiots that support
their governments troops just because they are American.
This is the same swearing by the ensign and worship that
the earlier Roman Empire practiced.
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